Onnacruse
Hello, when i read abaout thing like you wright i am very confused, if you being inn for so long time and serv in this positions, why leave, intresting to here your story if you want, ?
i dont know if you been asked this before but what made you give up your religious beliefs,i assume that not all on here were jehovahs witnesses so if you were not please say.well i will telll you why i left, i got baptised as a jw 2 yrs ago and then started to notice say 6 months after baptism that the followers didnt really heed the what they were being taught it didnt seem to motivate them in their hearts, to say display genuine love it was more like a routine to them to be at meetings,talk to same ones,read watchtowers,it seemed so mechanical like robots,im not saying this is what caused me leave because i was serving genuinely i was really interested in practising what i preached,but i found it hard because everyone wasnt trying to do the samething.so then gradually i started to question things and then i got the internet last year and was itching to look on these so called apostate sites,you see i wanted to prove these sites wrong but in the end i was proved wrong with things like prophecies,jws past history,etc.
so thats my story
Onnacruse
Hello, when i read abaout thing like you wright i am very confused, if you being inn for so long time and serv in this positions, why leave, intresting to here your story if you want, ?
hello, first time poster, long time reader.. i was wondering just what my title asks.
if i own/read/admit to apostate material, can that get me df'ed?.
i know better then to admit that i believe the apostate material to the elders, or that i disagree with the society's teachings, but will simply admitting to owning and reading them get me df'ed?.
Panda J.
Thanks fore youre post, I am in the same position as you, wery intresting and comforting to read, in some way internet is a blesing for us who grow upp inn JW religion, and i see we have almost the same history, mee elder for over 20 year, was boss for theocratic school very long time.
Then something happend, one of my child was dfd, very unnfair, i read the Franz book as you ,on one day, it was like water to a thirsty man.
Then i start to read all old books,like million now living will never die.
I find some very disturbing things,like this 1873 thing,and that we dont understand jesus coming 1914 before 1942, that was realy news fore mee, I told my wife, and some others, katastrof,it was,
i have a very happy marrige, and it was terrefieng to see what happend when I tell my secrets to her, she lost almost here life spark.
So what to do, going on and being on both sides it not easy, but the only chosie I think.
the truth have also done some very good things fore me, so I am very sorry to see this issus who give mee some dubts.
Internet is a dubbel thing exciting, give you info,but , it is worth the price?
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some of you here have describe a situation where the jw kolapps, i have a qestion,if this happend, who take the assets, and where goes all the money we have?.
as in evry company,you must have someone who is the so called owner.
Some of you here have describe a situation where the JW kolapps, i have a qestion,if this happend, who take the assets, and where goes all the money we have?
As in evry company,you must have someone who is the so called owner.
some one asked: .
>>i don't understand.
i honestly do not understand how active jws can be presented with hundreds upon hundreds of cases that have occurred all over the world, and casually deny that there is any problem.<<.
As I told you, you arec totaly wrong, all JW now that it cuold bee problem, even inn Awake i read if you here bad things, as is hard to belive, bee paitent , wait and see why this is done.
I told a lot of peopel , and sure they understan that in some cases wrong tthing is happening,as in old Israel, we are not perfekt ou know.
As I also say sweish gopverment almost follow the JW line in Phedifile isus, they decid yestersay that it is not inaff widh the childrens testomoney, you must have some more indikation.
WHY, to many have change what they say, and admit that they was lying, fore money ithink. trgikal,but this show how difficult issu this is, it is nor so easy as some of you say.
some one asked: .
>>i don't understand.
i honestly do not understand how active jws can be presented with hundreds upon hundreds of cases that have occurred all over the world, and casually deny that there is any problem.<<.
You have complitely wrong when you say that Jw not understand it is problem.
As one of few ongoing JW on this site I now this, you dont, only qessing I think.
But this pehofilething is a difficult issu who not is so easy to say whats riht or wrong.
I can tell you that here in Sweden they have decid today that they must change the system , and from now it is not inaff widh what the children say, they must have some more info who can prove it in some way, WHY, several cases here the children have regret what they say and change ther story,and the peopel who was condemd proven inocent .
I read that some of the sign here have faced this also, so evrything it not so easy.
ofcourse I dont defend Abusers,but if we have a witchunt, we can have a dangerus situation.
Pedhofile are hidding in religius organisaitions , even in JW, but we can not say that evry man or women who is acused is qulity, as even the staten now say here.
Well hippie, fun if I can fix litel joj for you, but perhaps you can tell some from how it is in Poland, the country who are so bigg grow inn, or?
Give us some news,, and some good expirenses, if you understand my english, i can tell it is to expensiv for me to be out on internet and at the same time look in a wordbook who i must spell,i am not made of money.
Thank you H, your guess was right.
To bad spelling, but is was stressd.
and hello german JW, we have a friend from germany here widh us, he is an elder, any qestions for him from you.
I told him abaout dateline, and he dont now anything.
I have read that in G you have a letter to the elder abauot UN thing, in sweden they dont now this even if they are an elder.
Littel desapointed that we dont have a explanaition on the assambley.
I dont now if you read my topics, but I am a on going JW who have no attentions to qite, even if we have problems, i am working on my way to do things better, here you have the link.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi
warm regards from sweden.
I find this on unother bord.
I have it on reliable source that one of the founding JWs in
Japan, who has been serving as a branch coordinator, was
recently disfellowshipped. According to the sources,
Toshio Honma is a top-ranking JW at the Japanese
branch. He may be highest ranking JW who has ever been
disfellowshipped in Japan, except for Junzo Akashi who
was DF'ed shortly after the World War II ended. Were
trying to find out the reason for his DFing. It is noteworthy
because Japan has been one of the WTSs strongholds in
the world in recent years. Numbers were soaring in Japan
(and Russia) while they were dwindling elsewhere in the
world. The question now is, will this former high-ranking
JW speak out in Japan as Ray Franz did here and abroad?
dr. phil gave this test on oprah.
some folks pay a lot of money to find this stuff out.
don't be overly sensitive!
hello Amazing, my points are 49.
greatings from HM
going to the assambley tommorw
perhaps i going to putt upp some abauot dateline on the tabel, nowan no this in sweden exept a few like mee who are on internet.